John Hayes had a disturbing response to Rwanda project


On Tuesday A debate took place in the House of Commons under the theme of Nationality and Borders Bill and it was very disappointing. It can be seen here for all of the words. The piece began with this comment from Tom Pursglove who is a Minister of the Justice and the Home Office. He stated “I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 5D.” and a few moments later he stated “The time has now come to get on, to pass this Bill and to make the changes that we so desperately need to shift the dynamic, to end these dangerous channel crossings and to put together an asylum system that is fit for the future and able to cope with the demand.” Sadly at the end of the debate there was a vote and 294 Conservatives voted to oppose that amendment along with two other people. Anne Marie Morris and Rob Roberts who are both ex Conservative MPs who are currently Independent. All of the other MPs that voted opposed this proposal. Sadly their votes only reached 206. Along with the Labour MPs there were 41 SNPs, 8 Liberal Democratic MPs, 4 DUPs, 3 Plaid Cymru and Caroline Lucas from the Green Party.

Early on in the discussion John Hayes (South Holland and the Deepings) spoke and his comment was very disturbing. He needs to be challenged for this appalling approach as indeed does a number of other Conservatives. His comment emerged after a call from a Labour MP, Chris Matheson (City of Chester) to Tom Pursglove who responded and then Hayes spoke. Here are the three comments.

Matheson: I do not want to detain the House too long but, with all this talk of taking back control of our borders, why are we outsourcing that control to Rwanda?

Pursglove: The hon. Gentleman’s remarks are effectively a charter for doing nothing. What is unacceptable is for people to continue putting their life in the hands of evil criminal gangs whose only regard is for turning a profit—they do not care whether people get here safely. We have a moral responsibility to stop this, and we have a moral responsibility to act, which is precisely what we will do through this Bill.

Hayes: Will my hon. Friend accept my congratulations on the Patel-Pursglove plan vis-à-vis Rwanda? And will he ensure that, when people arrive here, they are on a plane as quickly as possible before some dodgy activist or fat-cat human rights lawyer can get their hands on them?

It is of course appalling for all that the Government is doing, but this comment from John Hayes is deeply disturbing and he needs to be challenged.

A few minutes later a SNP MP stated

Alison Thewliss: The Minister was talking about delays in casework, but those are nothing new. My seven years as an MP have been marked with delays in Home Office casework. Some constituents have been waiting now for two years—not for a decision, but for an interview. Can he explain exactly when they will get interviewed under this system because I have seen no difference at all?

The response from Tom Pursglove was not worth repeating. Then a few minutes later Stephen Kinnock who is the Labour Shadow Minister for Immigration stated:

Last week, the Home Secretary told the House that our asylum system is “broken”. Yesterday, her Minister, who is sitting before us today, again stated clearly that our asylum system is “broken”. We on the Labour Benches completely agree, but what Conservative Members seem to continually miss is the fact that the Conservative party has been in power for 12 years. The problem is that they never stand up and take responsibility; they always try to blame others—the civil service, the courts and even the media. It was revealed this week that the Home Secretary banned the Financial Times, The Guardian and the Mirror from the press delegation accompanying her to Rwanda. That was a truly Orwellian move—cancel culture at its worst.

He did carry on from that first element but it is very encouraging we are getting some positive comments, even though tragically the voting is not able to oppose the Government.

About ianchisnall

I am passionate about the need for public policies to be made accessible to everyone, especially those who want to improve the wellbeing of their communities. I am particularly interested in issues related to crime and policing as well as health services and strategic planning.
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